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Posted by Mark on October 11, 2002 at 14:37:00:

In Reply to: Posted by on March 17, 2002 at 16:17:29:

: A Closer Look: New York State’s “Bad Bills” - A 8704 and S4857
: Your Strong, Vocal, Immediate Opposition is Urged!!
:
: A8704 and S4857 are proposed bills which contain punitive regulatory
: provisions which would affect all unlicensed New York State healers who are
: not currently regulated for modalities which even according to bill
: supporters “do no harm.”
:
: These bills affect all New Yorkers, our right to practice, teach, heal,
: and receive self-empowering healing modalities, including spiritual healing,
: yet most New Yorkers have not been consulted on and/or do not know about
: these bills.
:
: The bills are 13 pages long and the full text (portions are quoted
: directly below) may be found on the following websites (for A8704):
: http://assembly.state.ny.us (for S4857): http://senate.state.ny.us
:
: These bill(s) cover the following “catch all” of undefined, unlicensed
: healing modalities which are lumped together and all would be negatively
: affected by punitive regulatory measures against healers (which constitute 11
: out of 13 pages of the bills):
:
: “COMPLEMENTARY AND ALTERNATIVE HEALTH CARE PRACTICES” MEANS THE BROAD
: DOMAIN
: OF COMPLEMENTARY AND ALTERNATIVE HEALING METHODS AND TREATMENT
: INCLUDING, BUT
: NOT LIMITED TO: ACCUPRESSURE; ASIAN HEALING PRACTICES; ANTHROPOSOPHY;
: AROMA
: THERAPY; AYURVEDA; BODY-MIND CENTERING; CRANIAL SACRAL THERAPY;
: CULTURALLY
: TRADITIONAL HEALING PRACTICES; DETOXIFICATION PRACTICES AND THERAPIES;
: ENERGETIC HEALING; FLOWER ESSENCES; FOLK PRACTICES; GERSON THERAPY;
: HEALING
: PRACTICES UTILIZING HEAT, COLD, WATER, COLOR, TOUCH AND LIGHT;
: HEALING-RELATED KINESIOLOGY; HEALING TOUCH; HELLERWORK; HERBOLOGY OR
: HERBALISM; HOMEOPATHY; IRIDOLOGY; JIN SHIN THERAPY; MIND-BODY HEALING
: PRACTICES; NATUROPATHY; POLARITY THERAPY; QI GONG; REFLEXOLOGY; REIKI;
: ROLFING; SHIATSU; TRAGER APPROACH; SOMATIC PRACTICES OF MOVEMENT THERAPY;
: STRUCTURAL INTEGRATION; TOUCH FOR HEALTH; TUINA; YOGA; OR ANY COMBINATION
: OF
: SUCH PRACTICES.
:
: PLEASE NOTE: Harmless spiritual healing modalities are lumped together
: with modalities for which the people of the state of New York State currently
: enjoy important protections against the practice of medicine without a license
: which this bill would water down (see below).
: And, under the guise of “consumer protection” and in a climate of fear
: (which is being exacerbated and used by one small group to achieve passage of
: these bills to an agenda and without proper public examination of the
: consequences of the bills themselves), unlicensed healers practicing
: modalities which may require nothing more than an exemption from or
: modification of current New York Massage Law (through legal amendment to this
: law) are being asked to support a bill which would institute harsh regulatory
: penalties affecting their practices and that of all other unlicensed healers.
:
: These bills would negatively impact BOTH the consumer’s right to
: affordable healing empowerment AND THE HEALER’S RIGHT TO PRACTICE SPIRITUALLY
: BASED NON MEDICAL HEALING ARTS WHICH DO NOT HARM , WHICH HAVE NEVER BEEN
: DEMONSTRATED TO NEED PUNITIVE REGULATION, OR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A
: CLIMATE
: OF PERVASIVE LEGAL INTIMIDATION , LOSS OF CIVIL AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, AS
: PROPOSED IN BILLS A8704 AND S4857.
:
: Why Build A “Hammer” For New York State Regulators
: To Regard All Unlicensed Healers as a “Nail”?
:
: Many of the practitioners of the above healing arts have never been
: regulated, nor do they require regulation (as these modalities have never
: been shown to do any harm to the public and
: the practice and teaching of these modalities concerns spiritually protected
: First Amendment rights, and/or native American Treaty rights--to practice
: “CULTURALLY TRADITIONAL HEALING” see categories above).
: Furthermore, there has been a punitive past history regarding such
: regulation of licensed medical professionals through the office of the Health
: Commissioner (the same state regulatory agency is specified to regulate
: unlicensed healers in bills A8704 and S4857):
:
: The Following email was received from a consumer/activist concerned about
: how the NY Health Commissioner is currently regulating licensed medical
: practitioners after the passage of the New York Complementary and Alternative
: Health Care Bill. (A8704 and S4857 are intended to be an “extension of this
: bill” to unlicensed complementary and alternative healers):
: << Dear Ellen,
: Sorry for the lengthy message, Basically Good doctors using good sound
: science (without a hidden agenda), are being shut down by a sector of the
: Health Dept. known as the "Office of Professional Medical Conduct." This
: office is out of control and they are destroying peoples lives.
: We are trying to get this consciousness out there.
: Basically reforming the way they function.
: We still need the OPMC office to weed out the real bad doctors but it has
: been discovered they are not doing the proper job.
: Your thoughts, Mark >>
:
: Public Information: A8704, S4857
: New York Voters were Not Consulted on These “Bad” Bills
:
: Please Note: Practitioners of the healing arts listed in A8704 and S4857
: have never been consulted as to our needs and/or requirements regarding the
: passage of these bills (or even if these bills are needed at all), nor have
: consumers in New York state been consulted.
: One small, private group of supporters (who have refused to publicly
: identify themselves as individuals or to name their leaders and who,
: nevertheless, continue to solicit public contributions in order to fund a
: lobbyist to supersede the legitimate rights and concerns of all empowered New
: York healers and consumers) claim to represent New York “consumers” and
: “unlicensed healers” in proposing the passage of this ominous legislation.
:
: No Public Hearings, No Information To Healers Or Consumers
: There have been no public hearings, no input at all by most practitioners
: or consumers in New York State regarding the serious punitive regulatory
: provisions of these bills which constitute 9/10ths of these bills.
: Nevertheless, one small group insists on ramming through this legislation
: at top speed without consideration of the consequences to healers and
: consumers, without consulting the citizens of New York State or the healers
: whom this legislation proposes to regulate through punitive provisions which
: would compromise basic civil and U.S. constitutional rights to privacy,
: presumption of innocence, first, fourth and fifth amendment protections
: presently guaranteed to all unlicensed healers which would be superseded by
: the explicit provisions of bills A8704 and S4857 (see below, direct quotes
: from the proposed bills).
:
: YOU MAY ASK: WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE IN COURT CASES, ETC. THAT THIS PUNITIVE
: LEGISLATION IS NECESSARY
: TO PROTECT THE CONSUMERS OF NEW YORK STATE
: FROM NON MEDICAL UNLICENSED HEALING MODALITIES
: WHICH DO NO HARM?
:
: Please Note:
: The Costs of A8704 and S43857 To Healers, Consumers
: If these bills are passed, the burden of proof of a healer’s innocence,
: and the costs of defense against easily filed consumer complaints (even
: anonymous false or malicious complaints) would be the personal responsibility
: and at the (considerable) financial expense and burden on the unlicensed
: alternative healer or teacher.
: This would drive up the cost of alternative healing, and/or require
: expensive malpractice insurance and could drive gifted and talented healers
: and teachers from the practice of alternative healing.
: The cost of administering the punitive provisions of these bills would
: fall squarely on New York State taxpayers or have to be collected from fines
: levied against healers prosecuted through the provisions specified in A8704
: and S4857, making these bills an expensive waste of taxpayers’ monies in a
: time of austerity and budget shortfall, as the healing modalities covered by
: the bills do not harm.
:
: And, adequate provisions exist under current New York State Law to
: protect consumers from abuse, fraud and/or criminal statutes protecting
: against the practice of medicine without a professional license.
:
: Some of A8704 and S4857’s punitive provisions against individual healers are
: as follows:
:
: “THE STATE OFFICE SHALL EMPLOY INVESTIGATORS WHO SHALL INVESTIGATE ANY
: COMPLAINTS MADE AGAINST AN UNLICENSED COMPLEMENTARY AND ALTERNATIVE
: HEALTH
: CARE PRACTITIONER TO THE EXTENT NECESSARY TO DECIDE WHETHER THERE ARE
: REASONABLE GROUNDS TO BELIEVE THAT A PRACTITIONER SUBJECT TO THE
: PROVISIONS
: OF THIS ARTICLE HAS ENGAGED IN PROHIBITED CONDUCT.”
:
: “THE INVESTIGATOR SHALL RECOMMEND TO THE COMMISSIONER THE DISCIPLINARY
: ACTION
: TO BE TAKEN”
:
: Search and Seizure of Healer’s Property and “Records” and Person:
:
: “DISCOVERY; SUBPOENAS. THE COMMISSIONER MAY ISSUE SUBPOENAS AND COMPEL
: THE
: ATTENDANCE OF WITNESSES AND THE PRODUCTION OF ALL NECESSARY PAPERS,
: BOOKS,
: RECORDS, DOCUMENTS AND OTHER EVIDENTIARY MATERIAL. ANY PERSON FAILING OR
: REFUSING TO APPEAR TO TESTIFY REGARDING ANY MATTER ABOUT WHICH THE
: PERSON MAY
: BE LAWFULLY QUESTIONED OR FAILING TO PRODUCE ANY PAPERS, BOOKS, RECORDS,
: DOCUMENTS OR OTHER EVIDENTIARY MATERIALS IN THE MATTER TO BE HEARD, AFTER
: HAVING BEEN REQUIRED BY ORDER OF THE COMMISSIONER TO DO SO MAY, UPON
: APPLICATION TO THE SUPREME COURT, BE ORDERED TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDER OR
: SUBPOENA”
:
: Presumption of Healer’s Guilt, Not Innocence:
:
: “IF THE PRACTITIONER FAILS TO REQUEST A HEARING BY NOTIFYING THE
: COMMISSIONER
: WITHIN THIRTY DAYS AFTER SERVICE OF THE NOTICE OF THE PROPOSED ACTION, THE
: COMMISSIONER MAY PROCEED WITH THE ACTION WITHOUT A HEARING”
:
: And, in days of slow U.S. mail and “sewer” summons service, please note the
: following:
:
: “IF WITHIN FIFTEEN DAYS OF PERSONAL SERVICE OF THE ORDER, THE SUBJECT OF THE
: ORDER FAILS TO REQUEST A HEARING IN WRITING, THE ORDER SHALL BE THE FINAL
: ORDER OF THE COMMISSIONER AND SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO REVIEW BY A COURT
: OR
: AGENCY”
:
: A8704 Supersedes Fifth Amendment Rights
: To Protection Against Self Incrimination:
:
: “IF AN UNLICENSED COMPLEMENTARY AND ALTERNATIVE HEALTH CARE PRACTITIONER
: REFUSES TO GIVE TESTIMONY OR PRODUCE ANY DOCUMENTS, BOOKS, RECORDS OR
: CORRESPONDING EVIDENCE ON THE BASIS OF THE FIFTH AMENDMENT TO THE
: CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE COMMISSIONER MAY COMPEL THE
: UNLICENSED
: PRACTITIONER TO PROVIDE THE TESTIMONY OR INFORMATION”
:
:
: Loss of Medical Privacy For Healers:
:
: “THE COMMISSIONER MAY ISSUE AN ORDER DIRECTING THE PRACTITIONER TO SUBMIT
: TO
: A MENTAL OR PHYSICAL EXAMINATION OR CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY EVALUATION”
: AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST:
:
: “THE COMMISSIONER MAY....OBTAIN MEDICAL DATA AND HEALTH RECORDS RELATING
: TO
: AN UNLICENSED COMPLEMENTARY AND ALTERNATIVE HEALTH CARE PRACTITIONER
: WITHOUT
: THE PRACTITIONER’S CONSENT”
:
: The Onus Is On The Healer, and At the Healer’s Expense:
:
: “CHALLENGES TO REQUESTS OF THE STATE OFFICE MAY BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE
: APPROPRIATE AGENCY OR COURT”
:
: Please Note, Under A8704 and S4857:
: How a Healer Finds (False) Anonymous Complainants
: or Terminates Dysfunctional Clients From His/Her Practice:
:
: The Healer is PROHIBITED From Using Information Obtained
: For Any Other Purpose
:
: (Such as: Informing Fellow Healers that A Client has Sexually Abused,
: Intimidated or Molested Or Attacked the Healer!!):
:
: “DATA ON A COMPLAINANT, EXCEPT WHEN THE UNLICENSED COMPLEMENTARY AND
: ALTERNATIVE HEALTH CARE SERVICE PROVIDER HAS FILED WITH THE STATE OFFICE A
: SWORN AFFIDAVIT OR AFFIRMATION UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY ALLEGING FACTS
: WHICH,
: IF SUBSTANTIATED, WOULD TEND TO SHOW THAT THE COMPLAINANT FILED THE
: COMPLAINT
: KNOWING THAT THE COMPLAINT HAD NO SUBSTANTIAL FOUNDATION IN FACT, OR FILED
: IT
: WITH RECKLESS DISREGARD FOR WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS SUBSTANTIALLY FOUNDED,
: IN
: WHICH CASE, THE NAME AND ADDRESS OF THE COMPLAINANT SHALL BE FURNISHED TO
: THE
: UNLICENSED COMPLEMENTARY AND ALTERNATIVE HEALTH CARE PROVIDER FOR THE
: SOLE
: PURPOSES OF ALLOWING SUCH PROVIDER TO COMMENCE LEGAL ACTION AGAINST THE
: COMPLAINANT AND TO TERMINATE THE HEALTH CARE RELATIONSHIP, IF ANY, WITH THE
: COMPLAINANT AND SUCH INFORMATION SHALL NOT BE USED FOR OTHER PURPOSES.”
:
: Keeping of Files on Individual Healers:
:
: “THE STATE OFFICE SHALL MAINTAIN AND KEEP CURRENT FILES CONTAINING THE
: REPORTS AND COMPLAINTS FILED AGAINST UNLICENSED COMPLEMENTARY HEALTH
: CARE
: PRACTITIONERS WITHIN THE COMMISSIONER’S JURISDICTION”
:
: It seems, these bills were drafted in a “dark closet,” without scrutiny
: or input from the majority of New York’s unlicensed healing community, or
: from spiritual healers who would be negatively affected by this punitive law.
:
: None but a small group which has tried to manipulate all unlicensed
: healers into passage of these bills (through a fear based campaign of
: intimidation which has split the healing community) has ever been consulted
: regarding this unwise legislation. Yet, this one group is attempting to push
: their private agenda (of watering down current legal protections of New York
: State law against the practice of medicine without a license--see below) on
: all citizens of New York State, on all people who heal in faith, who do no
: harm.
: Christian Science is covered by these bills, unnamed and unspecified
: healing modalities are covered by these bills, Reiki, yoga, tai chi and self
: empowerment modalities, native American healing is covered, Anthroposophy
: (Rudolph Steiner methods) are included, yet, no evidence exists that people
: who actually practice or utilize these (and other modalities) covered by
: these bills have ever been contacted or consulted to ascertain their needs
: (if any) for this legislation.
: Most healing arts listed in these bills are taught, practiced and
: publicly advertised quite openly, legitimately and safely in New York State
: and do not now (and have never) required any punitive regulatory legislation
: in order to be practiced. Spiritual healing practices, such as prayer,
: Reiki, Qi Gong, yoga laying on of hands healing, for stress relief have been
: practiced safely without needing any legislative regulations over thousands
: of years without doing any harm. How can anyone justify that (spiritual)
: healing, energy work or exercise practices, such as these, now need punitive
: regulation, as specified in A8704 which would effectively supersede protected
: First Amendment rights to spiritual practice?
: Provisions Exist In New York State Law to Protect Consumers Against Practice
: of Medicine Without a License
: A8704 and S4857 Water Down These Protective Provisions
: Those healing arts which presume to “diagnose and/or treat illness” or
: “prescribe” healing substances are currently regulated and constitute
: “practice of medicine without a license” in New York State unless practiced
: by a licensed health care professional or under the supervision of a medical
: doctor. And this is an entirely proper and appropriate (sic) requiring state
: supervision for this type of healing, as only a qualified licensed medical
: professional can insure that a person with serious disease process is not
: being improperly “dosed” with an inappropriate or ineffective nostrum or
: remedy in lieu of a full medical understanding of the ramifications of
: serious or potentially life threatening conditions or disease processes.
: These processes may be present in a patient or client which an unlicensed
: healing practitioner is untrained and incompetent to identify “screen” or
: “treat” without being trained as or supervised by a licensed medical
: professional.
:
: A8704 and S4857 clearly state:
:
: “COMPLEMENTARY AND ALTERNATIVE HEALTH CARE PRACTICES SHALL NOT INCLUDE
: PROVIDING A MEDICAL DIAGNOSIS OR RECOMMENDING THE DISCONTINUANCE OF
: LEGEND
: DRUGS PRESCRIBED BY A LICENSED HEALTH CARE PRACTITIONER, NOTWITHSTANDING
: ANY
: OTHER PROVISION OF LAW, AN UNLICENSED COMPLEMENTARY AND ALTERNATIVE
: HEALTH
: CARE PRACTITIONER MAY PROVIDE PERSONAL CONSULTATIONS AND SCREENINGS
: BASED
: UPON THE PRACTITIONER’S METHOD OF COMPLEMENTARY AND ALTERNATIVE CARE;
: MAY
: MAKE ASSESSMENTS OF THE CLIENT’S HEALTH PROBLEMS AND CONCERNS AS THEY
: RELATE
: TO THE UNLICENSED COMPLEMENTARY AND ALTERNATIVE HEALTH CARE
: PRACTITIONER’S
: METHODS OF PRACTICE; AND MAY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE USE OF
: COMPLEMENTARY OR ALTERNATIVE HEALTH PRACTICE METHODS OR TREATMENTS IN
: ACCORDANCE WITH THE CONSULTATION, SCREENING AND ASSESSMENTS OF THE
: PRACTITIONER.”
:
: You may well ask how this provision “protects” a client/consumer with an
: undiagnosed, unmetastisized cancer or other serious illness whose “complaint”
: is first “screened” and/or “treated” by a non medical healer who may delay
: the diagnosis and/or medical treatment of serious undiagnosed disease and how
: this may affect the client/patient’s outcome for survival.
: IF PASSED INTO LAW, PUNITIVE PROVISIONS OF A8704 AND S4857 WILL BECOME A
: PERMANENT PART OF NEW YORK STATUTE
:
: FOR ALL OF THE ABOVE REASONS AND MORE,
: ALL HEALERS AND CONSUMERS MUST UNIFY
: TO OPPOSE PASSAGE OF A8704 AND S4857
:
: Please express your strong, vocal opposition (see below) to these “bad”
: bills, which seek to lump all spiritual healing arts which do not harm with
: those which constitute the “practice of medicine without a license” and with
: those non medical healing arts which would be better served by amending
: current state law to exempt non massage arts from requiring massage licensing.
:
: For more information and UPDATES ON THIS LEGISLATION and to join with other
: New York State empowered healers, and consumers, Contact:
:
: NY State Healer’s Empowerment Coalition
: P.O. Box 754217
: Forest Hills, NY 11375
:
: email: HealNet@aol.com
: 1-877-HealNet or 1-877-432-5638
:
: see: www.ReikiPeaceNetwork.com
: (for more information on A8704 and S4857)
:
: Letter To NY State Elected Officials:
:
: Dear ,
: As a healer and/or consumer of alternative healing, I strongly oppose the
: following very badly drafted bills which are being considered in the New York
: State legislature, namely A8704, and S4857, which seek to regulate a 'catch
: all' of unlicensed, non medical healing modalities, including "but not
: limited to" Reiki spiritual laying on of hands healing, along with an
: extended list of specified and unspecified healing arts, including
: generalized "folk practices," "food," "water," "heat," and "cold," the use of
: which are never defined in these bills.
: Please specify your position on A8704 and S4857 to me by return mail.
: Please withdraw any and all support for this legislation.
: According to the supporters of A8704 and S4857, "there has never been a
: consumer complaint about the quality or efficacy of a modality" which is
: being considered in these bills. Therefore, this legislation is unnecessary!
: Non medical healing modalities do not require regulation as if they were
: medical modalities capable of causing harm, or constituting "malpractice."
: These bills would constitute a nightmare to administer, as modalities are
: undefined and interpretation is at the behest of the "State Health
: Commissioner" who would be in charge of drafting "enforcement" policies,
: which could constitute a "witch hunt" against excellent teachers and
: practitioners of alternative healing modalities. This legislation would
: cause unnecessary expense to the taxpayers of the State of NY to which I
: strongly and particularly object, in these times of austerity and recession.
: These bills would subject practitioners and teachers of these healing
: arts to possible disciplinary actions (including felony charges, subpoenas,
: fines, and confiscation of personal property, violation of privacy rights,
: etc.) for practicing spiritual healing arts. A number of these healing arts,
: such as Reiki (laying on of hands healing), native American healing,
: Christian Science and Anthroposophy, are protected under the first amendment
: of the U.S. Constitution, which guarantees the right to spiritual practices
: of any person's choice, or as part of native American treaty rights which the
: administration of these bills would violate!
: Sufficient laws already exist on the books regarding "practicing medicine
: without a license" and through litigation as expressed in current NY State
: Law.
: I respectfully insist on keeping my right to affordable healing
: empowerment and alternative care, the right to transmit G-d's healing energy
: (which can do no harm) through laying on of hands without unnecessary
: prosecution or persecution by the State of New York.
:
: Sincerely (with peace and healing),
:
:
: (please print clearly):
:
: Name:_______________________________ phone #:____________________
:
: Address:______________________________ email
: address:________________
:
: City/State:_____________________________________zip code:__________
:
: IMPORTANT!! Sample Letter to NY State Elected Officials
: Please Fill in Name & address of each elected official & Xerox!!
: Please write in opposition to two very poorly drafted, costly (to
: taxpayers and recipients of Reiki and alternative healing) New York State
: bills, A8704 and S4857. Detailed information on these bills can be found in
: an article posted on: www.ReikiPeaceNetwork.com
: Please get all of your friends, those in your healing practice to oppose
: these bills by writing letters to elected officials detailing your concerns
: (you may make Xerox copies of the “Sample” letter for each elected official
: and for distribution).
: Please send us a copy of your letters, this will help us in organizing strong
: vocal opposition to A8704 and S 4857. Send your copies to:
: NY State Healer's Empowerment Coalition, P.O. Box 754217, Forest Hills, NY
: 11375 -
: phone: 1-877-HealNet (877-432-5638)
: For additional details on these “bad” bills see www.ReikiPeaceNetwork.com
: Letters should be sent to your New York State assembly person and senator and
: to each of the following elected officials:
:
: You can locate your assembly person and/or access bill A8704:
: www.assembly.state.ny.us
: You can locate your NY State senator and/or access bill S4857:
: www.senate.state.ny.us
:
: Governor George E. Pataki
: State Capitol
: Albany, NY 12224
:
: (regarding S4857) (regarding A 8704)
: Hon. Joseph Bruno, NY Senate Maj. leader Hon. Sheldon Silver, NY
: Assembly Speaker
: 909 Legislative Office Building 932 Legislative Office Building
: Albany, NY 11247 Albany, NY 12248
:
: (bill sponsors A8704- NY Assembly): (bill sponsor S4857 - NY Senate):
: Rep. Michael Gianaris Sen. Kemp Hannon
: 22-77 31st St., Suite 107 1600 Stewart Ave., Suite 315
: Astoria, NY 11105 Westbury, NY 11590
:
: and
: Rep. Vivian Cook
: 142-15 Rockaway Blvd.
: Jamaica, NY 11432
:




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